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SunValleyAmigo
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Beitrag von SunValleyAmigo » Mittwoch 2. Januar 2002, 10:20

Well, Unfortunately German is not one of the languages I speak (English, Spanish and French) but I’m hoping someone here might be able to help me out.

I am trying to find good quality images of the rear suspension from a 96-98 Isuzu/Opel/Holden/Honda, Amigo/Frontera, or Jazz that has the coil 4-link suspension. Here in the US, the Amigo was only imported until 1994. But the same body style continued in Europe, Japan, and Australia until 1998? And in 1996, the Mu/Frontera/Jazz was upgraded to a rear coil 4-link suspension system. I would like to convert my rear leaf spring suspension to the coil suspension, and here is where I could use some help.

Could any of you possible post or e-mail me pictures of a 96-98 model Frontera’s rear suspension? I think that instead of trying to invent my own system, it would be better to use the same system that the factory designed.

Any help would be very much appreciated! Thank you!

And you guys have a sharp and well designed website. Come check out our site at

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/isuzu.


Travis

svamigo@hotmail.com

P.S. sorry for any mistakes I might have made in posting here.

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Beitrag von Stefan » Donnerstag 3. Januar 2002, 05:05

Hi Travis,
first of all a happy new year.
From a technical point I am not able to answer your question, because I do not know anything about this vehicle. I personally own a 2001 Trooper S 4WD.
But I translated your question into German to make it more easy for the Geram viewers. Maybe somebody has an answer to this.

Greetings from Texas

Stefan
Hallo Rodeo Fahrer,
ich habe die Mail von Travis mal übersetzt, da ich von Timo schon darauf angesprochen wurde.
Der Kollege sucht detaillierte Bilder oder Fotos von der schraubengefederten Hinterachse des 96-98 Isuzu Amigo/Opel Frontera/Honda Passport oder Jazz. Wahrscheinlich sind alle baugleich.
Bis 94 wurde dieses Auto in USA hinten mit Blattfederung angeboten und erst ab 96-98 mit Schraubenfedern.
Er will sein Auto von Blattfedern auf Schraubenfedern umruesten und sucht daher Bilder von der Hinterachsaufhaengung des Frontera 96-98.
Kann da jemand helfen?
Wenn jemand solche Bilder hat, einfach Travis per Mail schicken.

Gruss

Stefan

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Beitrag von SunValleyAmigo » Freitag 4. Januar 2002, 04:09

Thanks Stefan!

I'd love to be the 1st Isuzu/Vauxhall/Opel/Holden - 1st generation Amigo/Frontera owner in the US with a rear coil 4-link suspension system.

I know it is possible, and using the factory set up would be much smarter.

So Please:D!! Can someone help me with this project:cool:!

Travis

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Beitrag von Timo » Samstag 5. Januar 2002, 22:50

Hi Travis,

ok the pics are in work :wink:
Give us some days...

Greetings, Timo (Webmaster)

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Beitrag von Vermona » Sonntag 6. Januar 2002, 19:37

Hallöchen !!!

ich hab mal zwei bilder aus dem fronterabuch rausgesucht wo man das sieht ich hoffe das es so reicht weil ich keinen bock habe unter das auto zukrauchen :smile:

gruss

vermona

<font size=-1>[ Ich war mal so frei und habe die Bilder Online gestellt: ]</font>

Frontera mit Blattfedern

Frontera mit Schraubfedern

<font size=-1>[ Gruss Berndte ]</font>
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<font size=-1>[ Diese Nachricht wurde geändert von: Berndte am 2002-01-06 20:49 ]</font>

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Beitrag von Timo » Sonntag 6. Januar 2002, 21:49

Hi Travis,
here are the pics:

http://www.opel4x4.de/berndte/Schraubfedern.jpg

and

http://www.opel4x4.de/berndte/Blattfedern.jpg

I hope this is helpfull?

Greetings Timo (Webmaster)

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Beitrag von SunValleyAmigo » Mittwoch 9. Januar 2002, 03:13

Thank you everyone for your help.

Interesting that the 4-link suspension system for the 96-98 Frontera, is the same as the 99+ suspension system.

Have any of you compared the suspensions of two fronteras (one 1991-1995 and one 1997-1998) side by side? Can you detect if the factory used many of the same suspension mounting points?

For example, is the factory using the same front leaf spring mount, as a mounting point for the front links on the coil suspensions?

Has anyone here tried to change the older suspension for the new coil suspension? Because this is what I want to do.

I wonder if there are part numbers for the 4-link coil suspension...

Travis

P.S. thank you again!!

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Beitrag von Stefan » Samstag 12. Januar 2002, 21:47

Travis,

I just translated it again. Also check my comment at the end.
Interesting that the 4-link suspension system for the 96-98 Frontera, is the same as the 99+ suspension system.
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Die Federung vom 96-98 Frontera ist wohl die gleiche wie vom 99+ Frontera.

Have any of you compared the suspensions of two fronteras (one 1991-1995 and one 1997-1998) side by side? Can you detect if the factory used many of the same suspension mounting points?
For example, is the factory using the same front leaf spring mount, as a mounting point for the front links on the coil suspensions?
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Hat jemand mal ueberprueft ob die Befestigungspunkte der Blatt und Schraubenfedern identisch sind?Z.B. die vorderen Befestigungspunkte?

Has anyone here tried to change the older suspension for the new coil suspension? Because this is what I want to do.
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Hat dem Umbau schon mal jemand probiert?

I wonder if there are part numbers for the 4-link coil suspension...
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Gibt es Teilenummern fuer den Umbau?

Travis,

one more remark. The german TUEV (technical inspection organisation) would not allow such kind of transformation, unless the owner gets a comlete new type approval of this vehicle, which would probably cost a few 1000 dollars.
So I think you won't find somebody in Europe that has done this.
Everykind of major change you do an a vehicle (suspension, tires, lights, body, ...) needs a type approval from the TUEV. And all the parts you are using have to be type approved by the TUEV as well from the part manufactorer for this specific vehicle (modell, year, ...).

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